The Most Venerable Book (Shang Shu) - Confucius, Martin Palmer - translator Audiobook
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Ancient Chinese Literature
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The Most Venerable Book (also known as The Book of History) is one of the five classics. For many centuries it was a central work for anyone wishing to work for the imperial administration, with its prestige stemming from the belief that it had been assembled by Confucius himself. The first emperor tried to have all copies destroyed because of its subversive implication that ‘the Mandate of Heaven’ could be withdrawn from rulers who failed their people. For similar reasons it was also banned by Mao. Extraordinarily, it has been revived by the Chinese government of the 2010s.
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This post has 30 comments with rating of 5/5
July 31st, 2021
Confucius he say - thx oodles, mein Guest.
“Man who want pretty nurse must be patient.” - Confucius
July 31st, 2021
Thats racist as all hell Caesar. Jesus.
July 31st, 2021
…as racist as your anti-Semitic, genocide-denying, nazi-toady, “Pig people” rants?
Shoorly shome mishtake, Mish Moneypenny?
“toady who shoots off mouth, must expect to lose face.”
July 31st, 2021
He who seeds will have the Mandate of Heaven.
July 31st, 2021
Thanks a lot as always, Guest.
July 31st, 2021
He who spreads seed will have many offspring-ing up
July 31st, 2021
More of a Native American Taoist Buddhist Jew myself. Don’t really go in for all that hierarchal Confucian stuff.
Still good to know what your global rivals might be thinking.
The Tao Te Chin kinda dunks on what would become a core tenet of Confucianism:
When the great Tao is forgotten,
Kindness and morality arise.
When wisdom and intelligence are born,
The great pretense begins.
When there is no peace within the family,
Filial piety and devotion arise.
When the country is confused and in chaos,
Loyal ministers appear.
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So, I say better to know the Tao itself than the paler manifestations we see when Tao is lost.
July 31st, 2021
Thank you.
July 31st, 2021
Caesar. Again. Not likeing israel is not antisemitism. Not thinking the nazis were socialists is not nazism. Not equating all genocides in terms of motivations or political origins is not genocide denial. Making stereotypically racist imitations of how chinese people speak IS racist. You’re a pig.
July 31st, 2021
…again, genocide is apparently “historical revisionism” & a mere “zinger” - descriptions of Jews given as “Pig People” (entirely unsolicited) - Jews also “apartheidt” (sic). That’s the toadying nazism. And plenty more ugliness, hatred, denial & bigotry besides. Enough to fill several vats of vomit.
July 31st, 2021
Confucius say, toad who throws dirt is losing ground.
And toad who sits on stool smells like sh!t.
August 1st, 2021
Make sense.
August 1st, 2021
You were the pig people. I was very explicit about that. You are a pig person. Anyone like you is a pig person. Not your absurd construction of the Jewish people who apparently are now synonymous with an authoritarian state according to you, but YOU. Israeli apartheid is a reality. If you wanted to dispute that you could make a claim, but you don’t and you won’t. You keep equating the entire jewish population of the planet with Israel and framing any criticism of Israel as antisemitism. How many times do you need to be told this is both incredibly racist but just dishonest. You’re a racist. You’ve been caught in the act. And you’re a liar, as you’ve been caught lying.
August 1st, 2021
Ah yes, the old “but I’m only hating the hated country of the Jews (or the “Pig People’s” “apartheidt” as you refer to it)” defence. A very decrepit defence in this context. A country established following a genocide which you generally term “a zinger” characterised by “historical revisionism” - an event which sane, non-nazis call the Holocaust.
But don’t let that slow you down, Heinrich. Again, who has to have this explained to them, as I had to explain it to you? Upon which explanation, you hysterically screeched “Go bald!” & “Kill yourself!” Yeah, a real winner. I gave you multiple chances, but again, as you’d do with Hitler, you blew it.
August 2nd, 2021
You’re just a liar. You’ve been caught being a racist here and when you’r called on it you just lie more. You can’t deflect your lying onto someone else via sheer will. Thats not how it works buck. You’re a reactionary liar and a coward. :D
August 2nd, 2021
Also, i do want you to go bald and i do want you to kill yourself. Because no one should be walking around the world acting so cavalier with the truth - as demonstrated by your capacity to continue to just lie with every stroke of the key. Liar.
I saw you admitted you tossed off someone in a lidl meat section on the 4th of June. Wow Caesar. Wow. Really inappropriate.
August 2nd, 2021
Saves time the way you obliviously continue to condemn yourself, tabloid-toad (”it was the sun wot won it, wan it?”). Game, set, match. (”Genocide, wot genocide, mein fuhrer?”)
Yup, perfectly sane toad.
August 2nd, 2021
First up, what the hell are you trying to communicate with your stupid little alliteration asides.
Point at a genocide I denied, diminished or dismissed. You couldn’t do it last time and you can’t do it now. All you COULD do was gesture at your own shallow inferences about my motivations for the use of the word ‘zinger’ in relation to your unhinged rants. I used that word, as clarified elsewhere to refer to your term ‘IDEOLOGICAL GENOCIDE’, as it is a redundant term in that ALL genocide is ideological in nature.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT OR WOULD YOU LIKE AN INTERPRETER.
Again, we’ve been over this before. You’re just refusing to engage with my responses - like an intellectual coward (shocking!) and, naturally, i’m treating you like the incredibly dishonest cünt that you have been.
Do you not like being lied about Caesar? Do you?
All you needed to do was say ‘i lied about you’ and i would leave you alone. But you can’t and you won’t because you are just a coward. Its more important you stroke your ego than admit you’ve been incredibly dishonest. A university educated grown man who cannot control his impulse to lie about easily disproven nonsense. Absolutely pathetic.
August 2nd, 2021
Of course you’re lying - to cover your initial genocide-denial. No one to blame but yourself for your nazi slip showing. Genocide was a “zinger” & “historical revisionism” - the Jews are “Pig People” - that’s who you are, toad. You made your own motivations perfectly clear, p’haps that’s what’s upsetting you? Too clear? Even you are horrified when someone holds a mirror up to you.
Alliteration - you’ve been studying! That’s how u tabloid types always express yourselves, remember?
Yeah, that’s it - you’re so ignorant of history/politics, that I actually had to explain & distinguish ideological genocide. (WTF!)
August 2nd, 2021
OH I’M THE LIAR NOW?
August 2nd, 2021
The ZINGER was YOU and your BULLSHîT as has been explained repeatedly. Your refusal to accept that isn’t my problem.
The HISTORICAL REVISIONISM was you trying to frame Nazism as essentially socialist based on faulty reasoning and desperate reaching. Your refusal to admit your nonsense is again not my problem.
The ‘Pig Person’ comment was directed at YOU and people LIKE YOU. As has been repeatedly explained, and your inability to understand that is once again not my problem.
‘Ideological genocide’ is a nonsense term, as GENOCIDE IS ALWAYS IDEOLOGICAL YOU DENSE FUÇKHEAD.
How many times are you going to do this? Huh?
How many times are you just going to repeat these lies and deliberate distortions as if its truth and cross your fingers noone other than me calls you up on your bullshît.
You are just proving your own cowardice every time you say this nonsense and every time i put you right.
August 2nd, 2021
At least you can recognise that ‘lying is bad’.
You don’t like being lied about? Hey, guess what. I lied about you. I admit it. I just made some nonsense up. Now your turn!
Why do you keep doing it, coward?
August 2nd, 2021
You want tabloid press?
Picture this.
‘Local Fragile, Cowardly, Racist, Homophobic, Proven liar and apartheid defender calls everyone he doesn’t like a ‘nazi’ and thus takes on the mantle of living avatar for poe’s law.’
I can picture your relatives reading it now.
August 2nd, 2021
You’ve always been the liar, remember, Heinrich? A proven liar. You can’t reframe the nazi garbage you said, because it’s been quoted back to you. It’s a non-starter. Everyone else is lying except you, Dr Goebbels. Yeah.
Do you not know any history or politics? Mass killing can be ideological - principally post-Enlightenment, when a specific ideology of race was introduced; or non-ideological in nature, relating to territory/resources/power/fear, etc. I’ve outlined this to you. Have you ever read an actual work of history or politics - not an ideological tract? Or even watched a serious youtube video? Honestly, what history have you read?
August 2nd, 2021
Do you know what you’re doing right now?
What you’re doing is called mirroring. You are literally mimicking exact words and phrases i have used here and elsewhere to try to convince yourself you’ve scored some points.
Its a sign of desperation that you do this and cannot address my points.
Genocides over: territory/resources/power/fear are all still ideological. Materialism is an ideology. Divine right is an ideology. Ideology is bigger than explicit political ideologies from the 20th century or immediately following the enlightenment. Your inability to recognise this is nobody else’s failure but your own.
Im not giving you information about myself. I’m not a morøn, like yourself, who doxxes themselves without realising it.
You are, once again, a proven coward and a liar.
Oh and a pusher of nazi talking points. You’re now an advocate for the explicitly non-marxist, non worker aligned conception of ’socialism’ as described by adolf hitler. You’re literally PR for the nazis. Fascinating. Got any more ‘chinaman’ impressions in there? Any more sneering vitriol to spit out on sex acts between consenting adults? The ‘beast with two backs’ huh? Am i sensing a hidden current of, heaven forbid, actual bigotry in amongst all your intellectualising?
Sure looks like it.
Again. Cowardly liar you are.
August 2nd, 2021
Signing off. Got better stuff to do with my day :)
Drag you later you pathetic loser.
Try not to lie your way into anything too serious fücko.
August 2nd, 2021
Uh, no, not even close. Ideology is expressed, formal, political theory.
Ideology does not just mean - nazi-toady gets an “idea” to commit genocide.
Materialism is an observed factual reality - not a formal, political ideology. It’s a perspective. It’s only ideological in the sense that it may be expressed as a constituent element of a formal, political doctrine. The genocides of Tamburlaine, et al, were not accomplished in pursuance of formal, political theories & doctrines. For him & others, they were entirely pragmatic. Therefore, non-ideological. Keep up, Heinrich.
“giving you information about myself” & “doxxing myself” - you mean your terror of actually confirming that you’ve never read a book? Are u utterly insane? Essentially an admission that u haven’t. Why are u on a book site?!
Oy. As to the ‘beast with two backs’ - this is a known term for sexual intercourse generally. Seeing as you don’t know what that means either. Shakespeare was referring to intercourse in that quote. So “sneering vitriol to spit out on sex acts between consenting adults” & “bigotry?” Are you completely stupid? What are you talking about?
Besides, this is all moot. Because, if you haven’t been paying attention, you’ve just denied genocide again, over on the Stalin book. Yup, after all your nazi lies - “I don’t believe” it’s genocide - & the historical record of 20th c genocide “can’t be sold to you.”
Your entire rotten structure of falsehood collapses once again.
August 2nd, 2021
*Inconspicuously stands beside a Miami Vice fast boat down at the Grey Havens docks, as if for some last passenger to Kwangya.
August 3rd, 2021
Curb your consuming wanderlust, Rosco. You’re needed here, m’boy.
December 23rd, 2022
Pleaaaaase seeed
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